Interviewer Reveals ‘Truly Odd’ Obsession Trump Fixated On During Their Sit-Down

Jeffrey Goldberg is the journalist who broke the Signalgate story last month after he was accidentally included in a Signal chat discussing Yemen war plans. The president is known to particularly dislike Goldberg, although he was recently invited to speak with Trump in the Oval Office.

After that interview, Goldberg appeared on MSNBC’s Morning Joe, where he discussed what he described as the president’s “obsession” with his predecessor, Joe Biden, which Goldberg called “truly odd.”

When he arrived in the Oval Office, Goldberg said, the first thing the president said was, “‘I bet Joe Biden would never do this.” Goldberg added that Trump mentioned the previous president “six or eight times” during the interview.

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“It’s truly odd,” Goldberg said on MSNBC. “Like, he’s gone. You’re the president. It’s just this crutch—and you see it in all his speeches—that was noticeable.”

So far, Trump has spoken about Biden, his family or his administration at least 580 times either in public remarks or on his social media site, an NBC News analysis shows. That’s an average of six times every day of his presidency.https://t.co/UB18pk2mZK
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“President Trump has spent the first three months of his presidency cleaning up the disasters created by Joe Biden and Making America Great Again,” Trump spokesperson Liz Huston said in response. “Under President Trump’s leadership, the border is secure, inflation is cooling, jobs are up, and common sense is restored.”

NBC News noted last week that Trump has mentioned Biden 580 times in his first 100 days as president, either in public comments or on social media.

“As he nears the 100th day of his term, Trump has invoked his predecessor with a persistence that suggests the two are in the final throes of a bitter campaign. They aren’t and won’t ever be again: Biden pulled his name off the 2024 ballot and left elective office for good. But for Trump, there is a certain political upside in making Biden a perpetual bogeyman,” the NBC analysis said.

On Thursday, Goldberg’s Signalgate reporting appears to have resulted in Mike Waltz losing his position as Trump’s national security adviser. However, by the end of the day, Waltz had been given a different job as ambassador to the United Nations. Waltz is the person who invited Goldberg onto the group chat and later denied that he had ever been a source for Goldberg in the past.

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