There was a tense moment in the White House briefing room on Thursday, as White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt and CNN White House correspondent Kaitlan Collins got into an argument over a video message from Democratic lawmakers.
In the message, the lawmakers, all of whom have backgrounds in national security and intelligence, inform military members that they are permitted to disobey illegal orders. In response, White House aide Stephen Miller has called this an “insurrection.” At the same time, Trump himself has implied in social media posts that the Democratic members of Congress are guilty of treason and should be executed.
“‘You must refuse illegal orders,” the Democrats, including Sen. Mark Kelly (D-AZ) and Sen. Elissa Slotkin (D-MI), said in the video. “No one has to carry out orders that violate the law or our constitution.'”
We want to speak directly to members of the Military and the Intelligence Community.
The American people need you to stand up for our laws and our Constitution.
Don’t give up the ship. pic.twitter.com/N8lW0EpQ7r
— Sen. Elissa Slotkin (@SenatorSlotkin) November 18, 2025
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‘It’s called SEDITIOUS BEHAVIOR AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL. Each one of these traitors to our Country should be ARRESTED AND PUT ON TRIAL,’ Trump said in one social media post.
In the briefing room on Thursday, near the end of the daily White House briefing, Leavitt declared that “The president expects his cabinet officials to follow the law and to demand accountability and hold people accountable for their dangerous rhetoric. If these were Republicans that urged defiance of orders from the president and chain of command, this entire room would be up in arms. Instead, it is the other way around. That’s quite telling.”
Reporter: No matter what the order is… no matter if legal experts might think it’s illegal, does the president expect those officials to go ahead with the orders regardless of any outside thinking?
Leavitt: The president expects his cabinet officials to follow the law and to… pic.twitter.com/6L9xl5DTNe
— Acyn (@Acyn) November 20, 2025
As Leavitt walked off at the end of the briefing, Collins said to her, “‘Karoline, you misquoted Democrats in that video… ‘That’s actually not what they said.”
Collins: You misquoted Democrats in that video. That’s not what they said.
Leavitt:🚶 https://t.co/u6cIp87A24 pic.twitter.com/sKvr2Rjmua
— Acyn (@Acyn) November 20, 2025